Hi all! The topic of today's article is Renault Logan gearbox oil. As you may have guessed from the title, the article will contain video instructions for changing the oil, recommendations for choosing oil and filling volumes.
The manufacturer believes that the oil will retain its properties throughout the entire life of the vehicle.
But we live in Russia, where there are no roads, a lot of dust and dirt and a temperature difference of 80 degrees, and all these conditions negatively affect the health of cars. Accordingly, when the grenade boots break and the oil seals wear out, dirt, dust and water inevitably get into the gearbox! Naturally, in Russian realities it is better to change the oil in the box, and the owners have experimentally established that this should be done after 60-100 thousand km. mileage or when repairing the box and related elements.
What kind of oil is poured into the Renault Logan box at the factory?
ELF Tranself NFJ 75W80 in the Logan 1.4 and 1.6 box is 3 liters and it looks like this:
What kind of oil is allowed to be poured into a Logan box when operating in the Russian Federation?
Friends, let's agree that the recommendation of ELF Renault oil is nothing more than a marketing ploy... Oil viscosity is indicated according to SAE, and there is nothing wrong if you fill in high-quality GL4 synthetic oil with a viscosity of 75w-80 from any other manufacturer. The main thing is that the oil is of high quality.
Regarding the problem of choosing between mineral, semi-synthetic and synthetic, you should definitely choose synthetic oil, since it is more stable over the entire temperature range and has a longer service life. Although the author of this article has seen a Logan with a mileage of 280,000 km from a taxi, the owner of which poured Lukoil mineral water into the box, the author does not recommend doing this.
How to change the oil in a Renault Logan manual transmission with a 1.4 engine
- Vorotok
- Square as for engine drain plug
- 10mm wrench or socket
- Drain plug gasket
- Oil drain container
- Syringe or funnel for pouring oil.
Sequence of actions when changing the oil in a Logan 1.4 box
We unscrew the engine protection (it’s much easier and faster to work this way)
Prepare a container for draining the oil and unscrew the gearbox drain plug
Drain the oil until it drains, use pliers to unscrew the filler plug on the box
After draining the oil as much as possible, screw the drain plug back into place, after replacing its gasket.
Using a syringe or funnel with a hose, pour oil into the box through the filler plug until it runs back! Usually exactly 3 liters of oil fit into the box.
We wipe off excess oil from the box body and tighten the filler plug.
Screwing the engine protection into place
Cleaning the box breather
We enjoy the result and count the money saved.
Well, for clarity, here is a video:
How to change the oil in a Renault Logan manual transmission with a 1.6 engine
There is no point in writing separate instructions for changing the oil in the box of a Logan with a 1.6 engine, since the boxes differ structurally only in the size of the clutch housing, while the boxes themselves are the same and the filling volume of oil and its type are also the same. Therefore, you can do everything according to the instructions given above.
That's all for me today. Good luck to you, good luck on the roads and good health.
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Of course, each Renault owner can decide for himself which oil he considers most suitable for his car, but we still recommend follow the manufacturer's recommendations your car. RENAULT recommends using ELF oil, so you need to pour it. It is only advisable to buy oil from an organization known to you in order to accurately fill it with real ELF, since today there are a lot of fakes, especially in plastic cans.
We purchase oil in metal barrels directly from the manufacturer and we guarantee that your engine and gearbox will contain exactly the oil recommended by Renault. From our experience
long-term maintenance of Renault cars that work in taxis, and these are engine runs of about 400-500 t.km, we can say that the manufacturer’s recommendations are not unfounded.Regular oil changes to those recommended by the manufacturer made it possible to avoid engine repairs even at such high mileage.
Whether or not to flush the engine before changing the oil is also a purely personal matter. But we definitely recommend rinsing, and by rinsing MANNOL, since again from our experience, the specified washing saved me from repairs more than one already “dying” engine and allowed to significantly increase the resource. But it’s still up to you to decide.
Below it is written which oil should be poured into the engine, gearbox, power steering, gearbox and transfer case. These recommendations apply to the entire Renault model range,Of course, with the exception of the gearbox and transfer case, which not everyone has.
During an oil change, we carry out diagnostics of the vehicle's chassis at your request, this is free. And what’s more, during certain periods of the year, you can change the engine oil for free in our service. (You can view free replacement periods and the cost of oil with filter.)
For engines K4J, K7J, K4M and K7M For Renault cars, from the entire line of ELF oils, the most optimal is synthetic oil ELF EVOLUTION 900 NF 5W-40.
Firstly, it is suitable for all styles of driving a car, both measured and gentle operation, and high-speed style and even racing.
Secondly, this type of oil was specially developed by ELF at the request of the manufacturer of these engines (Renault) in order to extend the engine oil change interval.
Third, we have seen from our own experience that this oil is perfectly suitable for Renault engines and there is no point in experimenting with your own engine.
The cost of this oil today 450 rub. liter.
Find out the cost of an oil filter by phone, as the price of a filter for the same Renault model may differ significantly, depending on the characteristics of the filter and the manufacturer, for example:
1) The cheapest is China. 2) A proven and high-quality analogue - practically in no way inferior to the original in quality, but costs a little less. 3) Original Renault - oil filter with increased requirements and extended oil change intervals, quality guarantee.
Due to the fact that Renault does not have regulations for changing the oil in a manual transmission, the resource of the manual transmission is relatively small, it comes down to approximately 150,000 - 200,000 km. mileage, as well as possible oil leaks, which can undoubtedly significantly reduce the resource.
We can conclude that untimely replacement of gearbox oil on Renault cars can lead to premature wear,
and as a result, expensive repairs or replacement of the box .From our experience in car maintenance, regular oil changes every 4-5 years or 50-60 t.km, allows you to absolutely avoid repairing the box. Given that that you do not bring the clutch to a critical point of wear.(That is, when the clutch slips, it is difficult to switch gears, and you continue to operate the car. In other words, if you drive with a faulty clutch, you don’t have to change the oil, but the gearbox will still have to be repaired.)
Renault manual transmission uses oil ELF NFJ/P 75W-80 And It is NOT RECOMMENDED to pour anything else there ! Mineral oil, relatively expensive, cost today is 650 rubles. liter. Replacement will require 3 liters.
There is no point in saving here, since over the entire period of operation of the car you will make 1 or maximum 2-3 replacements.
Due to the fact that there is no regulation for changing the oil in automatic transmissions in Renault, the gearbox has a relatively short service life, it comes down to approximately 150,000 - 200,000 km. mileage, but this does not take into account the operating conditions and driving style of the driver, as well as possible oil leaks, which can undoubtedly significantly reduce the resource.
N timely change of automatic transmission oil on Renault cars can lead to premature wear, and as a result, expensive repairs or replacement of the box .
On automatic transmissions (DP0 and DP2) of Renault vehicles, we recommend changing the oil in the following cases:
- With a mileage of about 50,000 km or after 2 years of operation, since the oil shelf life is 5 years(excerpt from ELF official website)
- The car jerks when accelerating or just when driving
- Gear shifts poorly, is delayed or does not shift at all.
- The transmission “slips” (similar to a worn clutch on a manual transmission)
- The box goes into emergency mode (the transmission error lights up and in position “D” the third gear “road to service” is engaged)
Because Repairing an automatic transmission is very expensive, That It's better not to bring it to him . And when changing the oil you need to know the following:
- What type of box is installed on your car? Most often there are two types DP0 or DP2
- The first type "DP0" is a box of early production cars in which ELF ELFMATIC G3 oil is a mineral oil.
- The second type DP2, this is a box modified from DP0, is installed on more modern cars in which ELF RENAULTMATIC D3 SYN
- For a partial oil change, DP0 will require 4 liters of oil, DP2 3 liters.
- It is very important to set the exact oil level . Do not top up oil, there will be starvation of oil, with all the ensuing consequences (air in the system, insufficient pressure, insufficient lubrication. When overflowing, rotating parts of the box can foam the oil, which will lead to similar breakdowns as with underfilling.
- Even checking the oil level is quite difficult, due to the fact that the algorithm of actions must be carried out and the temperature limits of the oil must be maintained, it is therefore better to contact specialized service station.
You can change the oil in 2 ways.
1. Partial replacement.
It is done as follows: unscrew the drain plug, then unscrew the level flask and drain about three liters of oil, the volume depends on the type of box. After we fill in new oil, in the same volume as drained (if not less than 2.5 liters), start the car, warm it up to operating temperature and in the gearshift knob position “D” unscrew the drain plug, some amount of oil should flow out (if it doesn’t flow, add oils). After that, collect everything and add 150 ml of oil.
- About 3 liters of oil,
- square 8 by 8 mm (for drain and filler plugs),
- gaskets for drain and filler rings
- 8 mm hexagon (for unscrewing the level flask)
2. Complete replacement using a special stand.
This replacement is much more effective, since it is performed with the car running and constantly changing gears, and is based on the principle of substitution. That is, the stand is connected to the oil drain (through a special hole for measuring pressure in the automatic transmission), where the box itself squeezes out the oil when the engine is running, and is connected to the filler hole, where the oil change machine pumps new oil.
For such a replacement you will need:
- about 10 liters of oil
- lift
- Special stand for changing automatic transmission oil.
On Renault cars Routine replacement of power steering fluid is provided every 90,000 km or once every 3 years , Despite this, many neglect this procedure, for the most part these are those who have not encountered repairs or replacing the steering rack and/or power steering pump. The procedure itself is quite simple, but as with everything there are some nuances. Below is all the necessary information on replacing fluid in Renault power steering.
Failure to promptly replace the fluid in the power steering (power steering) can lead to premature wear of parts of the power steering pump and steering rack , and as a result, you will face expensive replacement or repair, namely:
- Repair or replacement of the power steering pump, since the fluid serves not only to transmit force from the flow to the steering rack mechanisms, but also to lubricate the pump itself.
- Steering rack repair or replacement, due to premature failure of oil seals or rack bearings.
According to the regulations, the power steering fluid in Renault is changed every 90,000 km or once every 3 years. But it is not always worth adhering to it, since there are a number of factors that can affect the condition of the liquid:
- Operating conditions close to extreme(aggressive driving at high speeds, severe weather conditions, etc.)
- Destruction of protective boots, steering rack seals and the rack itself, as a result, water enters the system.
- IN failure of the power steering pump(can throw chips into the system, so it is recommended to flush the system as much as possible when replacing the pump)
- Systematic non-compliance with power steering operating recommendations can also have an impact., namely: all automakers do not recommend longer than 3-5 secondsat keep the steering wheel turned out
And.
To change the power steering fluid you will need:
- Liquid ELF elfmatic G3
- Clamp puller or pliers
- Oil drain container
When changing power steering oil, it is important to check the following:
- Condition of the breather on the reservoir cap(it should ventilate freely)
- Condition of the filter mesh in the tank, if necessary, clean it
- Presence of metal shavings in the drained liquid(may indicate an imminent failure of the pump and power steering rack)
Important! After pouring the liquid into the reservoir, “pump” it to NOT wound up auto system, namely, turn the steering wheel several times to its extreme positions and constantly monitor the level. After starting, also “pump” and monitor the level.
Renault Logan changing the oil in the gearbox must be done according to the regulations, that is, every 10 - 15 thousand kilometers, as well as when repairing the gearbox. Renault Logan, changing the oil in the gearbox - that’s what this article will be devoted to. We will consider in detail both the principle of changing the oil in the gearbox and the safety requirements, as well as the amount of oil in the Logan (manual) transmission.
On Renault Logan, the oil change in the gearbox is carried out together with the oil seal. It is very difficult to select oil for a Renault gearbox, because its replacement is not provided by the manufacturer. But still, in those car books, the oil that is needed for the gearbox is indicated and this is ELF TRANSELF NFP 75w-80, below we will consider the advantages, features of this oil and how much it needs to be filled.
Changing the gearbox oil on Renault Logan (Renault Logan)
An oil change in the Logan gearbox is necessary, regardless of breakdowns or high mileage. If you have a new car, you need to change the oil after using the car for six months (or after 15,000 kilometers). Usually, at the factory, the oil in the box is slightly underfilled (according to standards), and while the box is running in, its parts inside (gears) are ground in. During this initial period of use, many particles of metal shavings enter the oil. Therefore, it is better to change it yourself, despite the service center, which will deny the obligation of this procedure. Moreover, the asking price is half an hour of time and 17 dollars! But you can ride for 5 years and not worry about squeaking or sticking of the gearbox lever.
All the details of changing gearbox oil for Renault (Renault)
The first step in properly changing the gearbox fluid is purchasing the right mixture. Remember that gearbox mixture and engine oil are different products. And those motorists who calmly pour engine lubricant into the gearbox are at great risk.
Before pouring new oil into the Renault Logan box, you need to drive a little, thereby warming up the lubricating fluid and mixing it (with dirt and impurities). This is done for subsequent easy draining of the oil and maximum cleaning of the box cavity. The most practical place to change the oil in the gearbox will be a car repair and inspection pit.
Advantages and features of ELF Tranself NFJ 75W80 oil:
- The formula used in the creation process eliminates the problem of speed jumping;
- Has heat resistance at the highest level;
- Even in the most severe frosts, it retains a liquid structure for easy gear shifting;
- EP additives for gearbox parts retain resistance to loads;
- Protection against corrosion and oxidation;
- Good viscosity stability and resistance to water.
For a safe replacement procedure, it is worth considering these examples of precautions:
- Protective gloves and a gas extraction device must be used;
- It is also necessary to use safety glasses;
- Use only serviceable tools;
- Use a hat if possible.
The list of tools used to change the oil is small:
- 8 mm square wrench.
- Pliers.
- Portable lighting.
- Wire brush.
- 10 mm socket wrench.
- Funnel with hose (0.5 m) or blower.
- Container for draining used oil.
The procedure for changing the oil in a Renault Logan gearbox
Changing the oil in the gearbox yourself is carried out in the following order:
If you need to add oil to the Renault Logan gearbox, save the container left after pouring the liquid (you can buy 1 liter for this case). You can also simply rewrite the name so you don’t forget. And the waste can also be used to heat a garage or a box under a car (if you have such a stove). If not and no one needs it, you need to dispose of the waste liquid. This is done by the city organization for the disposal of hazardous materials. household waste. Moreover, almost every garage cooperative has a collection tank for such waste.
The repair and operation manual for Renault Logan, Sandero, Largus, Logan 2, Sandero 2 states that the oil in the manual transmission is filled for the entire service life of the gearbox and does not require replacement. But during operation of the machine, the internal boot of the left drive often fails. The boot becomes tanned in the cold, breaks and water gets into the oil, which requires an oil change.
What kind of oil should I use?
On the assembly line, the manufacturer fills the manual transmission with Elf Tranself NFJ 75W-80, which Renault recommends for transmissions of the JXX, TL4 and NDX series.
On Renault Logan, Sandero, Logan 2, Lada Largus with 1.4 liter engines were equipped with a jH1 manual transmission, while cars with 1.6 and 1.2 liter engines were equipped with jH3. Structurally, the units differ in the size of the clutch housing, so this does not affect the choice of gear oil. Less common on cars is the JR5 manual transmission.
For topping up, use only Elf Tranself NFJ 75W-80, since mixing oils is not prohibited. For a complete replacement, it is not necessary to buy original products. You can choose among worthy analogues:
- Liqui Moly Getriebeoil 75W-80 (GL-5);
- Castrol Syntrans Transaxle 75W-90 (GL-4+);
- Motul Motylgear SAE 75W-80 (GL-5);
- Castrol Syntrans V FE 75W-80 (GL-4+);
- Shell Getriebeoil EP 75w90 (GL-4);
- Valvoline Maxlife MTF SAE 75W-80 (GL-4).
The filling volume of gearboxes jH1 and jH3 is 2.8 l, JR5 is 2.5 l. Before purchasing, we recommend that you check this information in the repair and operating manual for your car model.
Criterias of choice
When choosing transmission fluid, pay attention to the specification and viscosity. The API classification is a generally accepted classification that, through testing, determines the effectiveness of extreme pressure and anti-corrosion additives. Elf Tranself NFJ 75W-80 corresponds to the GL-4+ class, which is recommended for use in synchronized manual transmissions of passenger cars. However, it is permissible to use GL-4 and the highest class - GL-5, which is designed for loaded hypoid gears.
The SAE marking shows low-temperature (number with index W) and high-temperature characteristics. 75W formulations are recommended for regions where the temperature does not drop below -40°C. If the car is operated at temperatures not lower than -26°C, oils with an index of 80W are poured into the manual transmission. As for high-temperature characteristics, in regions with a temperate climate, a viscosity grade of 85-90 can be used.
For Renault Logan, Sandero, Logan 2, Sandero 2, Lada Largus, you can safely use oils with SAE indexes: 75W-80, 75W-90, 75W-85 and an API specification of at least GL-4.
Oil change intervals
Unlike an automatic transmission, in which ATF plays the role of a working fluid, in a manual transmission the oil serves to remove heat and reduce wear on rubbing pairs. But even in this mode of operation, irreversible chemical and physical processes occur; the oil is filled with a suspension of wear products from rubbing metal surfaces. Such negative factors reduce the life of synchronizers and gears. Therefore, it is still necessary to change the oil in manual transmissions, despite Renault service recommendations.
We recommend making the first replacement at 60 thousand km. During the first tens of thousands of kilometers of a vehicle's run, parts are worn in inside the gearbox. After the break-in period, the amount of wear products in the oil decreases, so the interval between subsequent replacements can be increased to 80-100 thousand km.
Video: Changing the oil in a manual transmission on a Renault Logan
Oil change instructions
1. Place the machine on a level surface.
2.Unscrew the engine and transmission crankcase protection. In some variations, the protection has a technological hole for unscrewing the drain plug.
3. Clean the gearbox housing from dirt and dust in the drain area and near the filler hole. If drained oil is to be reused, the area near the drain plug must be clean.
4.Unscrew the drain plug using a 8-square. After loosening it with a wrench/ratchet, we recommend turning the plug out manually to quickly remove it from the stream of draining waste. An increase in backlash indicates the end of the thread.
If the color of the drained oil is cloudy, with an emulsion, then there are water impurities in the oil.
5.Use pliers to unscrew the filler plug, which is located at the end of the right side of the box. It is not necessary to change the gasket on this plug.
6.Tighten the drain plug. It is advisable to replace the sealing gasket.
7. To fill in new oil, use a homemade funnel with a piece of hose or a special syringe for filling technical fluids. First pass the hose through the top of the engine compartment, and then direct it from below into the filler hole.
Pour oil into the box until it flows out of the filler hole. The same method is used for in-line level checking. As soon as the oil has stopped flowing out of the filler hole (which is why the car is placed on a flat surface), tighten the plug by hand, wipe off any oily traces and install the engine protection.
Something else useful for you:
- Before starting work, travel at least 10-15 km so that the oil inside the gearbox warms up and becomes less viscous.
- If the sealing gasket of the filler plug is not torn and is elastic, it can be reinstalled.
- Pay attention to the processing status. The presence of an emulsion indicates mixing of oil and water. Often such a nuisance is a consequence of a leak in the boot of the inner CV joint of the left drive shaft. Therefore, inspect the boot for tears or loose clamps. Pay attention to the transmission breather, through which, if installed incorrectly, water and dirt enter the manual transmission. Often, after unqualified repairs, craftsmen neglect correct installation breather
4.For preventive purposes, rinse and blow out the breather with compressed air. As the pressure inside the transmission increases, a completely clogged "breather" valve can push out. If the malfunction is not noticed in time, dust, dirt and moisture will render the new gear oil unusable.
Seal
The procedure for changing the oil in a manual or automatic transmission of a Renault Logan city crossover raises many questions among car owners. This is understandable, because the recommendations of the Renault automaker say one thing, but the service stations say something completely different. The manufacturer advises not to change the oil during the entire service life of the gearbox, and technical center specialists talk about 60-100 thousand kilometers, after which new transmission fluid should be added. Who to believe? We'll figure it out together.
How often do you need to change the oil in a Logan gearbox?
There is no need to add lubricant to a 4 or 5 speed transmission. In accordance with the Renault Logan manufacturer's instructions, you only need to check its level and top up the fluid when maintenance car. However, Russian drivers constantly complain that the left boot, which is connected to the grenade and is washed with box oil, fails. That’s why the experts “pull the blanket over themselves” - they advise changing the lubricant in the gearbox every 60 km.
If you don’t change it, then the gearbox may fail - you will need capital. Due to the considerable cost of both the part itself and the work, replacing the fluid as a preventative measure will definitely save you money!
Which oil is better to choose?
The manufacturer recommends filling the Renault Logan gearbox with a proprietary product – Elf Tranself with a viscosity of 75W-80.
Many auto centers servicing Logan do not guarantee work if a different lubricant is used. What is this connected with? Not only with high viscosity oil that meets the requirements of the international API GL4+ specification. Tranself is excellent at preventing corrosion of synchronizer rings, typically made from soft brass and molybdenum. Therefore, it is better not to save!
To change the oil on a Renault Logan manual transmission with a brass-based synchronizer, it is better to purchase Elf Tranself NFP, and for automatic transmissions with molybdenum rings - Elf Tranself NFJ. Of course, these liquids have a drawback - sensitivity to low or high temperatures. Because of this, synchronizers and gears wear out quickly. Otherwise, there are simply no analogues in Russia with the same characteristics as Elf lubricants.
Level control
Checking the transmission fluid level in the Renault Logan gearbox is a troublesome but simple procedure, which is usually carried out in an inspection pit or on an overpass. It is important to ensure that the car is positioned strictly horizontally, without distortions, otherwise the lubricant will be underfilled.
What is needed to control the oil level in the box?
To measure the liquid, you will need the following:
- container for collecting oil;
- flashlight;
- steel rod (probe);
- spanners at 8 and 10 mm.
The Renault Logan manual transmission does not have a dipstick for checking the transmission oil level. Control is carried out through a hole with a plastic screw white at the front of the box. The lid can be easily unscrewed by hand, but before doing this, place a container in case liquid leaks out. Then insert a metal rod at a right angle into the filler hole, pull it out and inspect its surface. If the dipstick is clean, there is not enough lubrication. Add liquid using a syringe or funnel, then screw the cap back in. At the same time, do not forget to rinse it in gasoline and replace the rubber gasket.
How much oil do you need?
An empty manual transmission holds up to 3.5 liters, and an automatic transmission holds 4 liters of lubricant. Typically, liquid is added until it begins to flow out of the control hole. If less of it fits into the box, it means the car is at an angle. It must be placed horizontally, then lubricant must be added again.
There may be fine metal dust on the cover that appeared after the natural running-in of the engine. If there are metal shavings in addition to it, this indicates damage to the gears. There is no way around this without urgent repairs.
How to make a replacement
Replacing transmission fluid in a Logan gearbox is not that difficult. It is better to carry out the procedure on a warm engine and in the warm season, using tools and materials such as:
- Elf 75W-80 grease;
- carrying with a lamp;
- 10 mm spanners;
- square slot screwdriver;
- a large syringe or hose with a sealed funnel;
- metal brush;
- gasket for gearbox drain plug;
- container for collecting oil with a volume of at least 5 liters.
Before starting work, warm up the box by driving 3-5 kilometers, then place the car over the inspection hole. To avoid trouble, be sure to secure the vehicle by applying the handbrake or placing a shoe under the rear wheel. Only then proceed with replacement.
Stages of work
Locate the drain hole. It is located to the left of the crankcase, between the engine and the left wheel. Then change the oil using the following algorithm:
Add lubricant until it begins to flow out of the inspection hole. Then install the plug and return the crankcase protection to its place.
Possible malfunctions after replacement
If the oil change is carried out correctly, the gearbox will last for the entire life of the vehicle. But some car enthusiasts do not clean the filler hole well from dust and soil, as a result of which the new oil becomes contaminated and loses its quality. This immediately affects the operation of the gearbox.
The bearings wear out quickly, a hum appears when the unit is operating, and extraneous sounds appear when changing gears. Spontaneous gear disengagement is possible while the vehicle is moving. If you do not take immediate action and fill in new lubricant, the gearbox will fail and you will have to take the car to a service center for major repairs.
Any questions? Watch the video where everything is shown in detail: